Where do we go from here?

ImageTo friends and fellow followers, my blog has been under “attack” by IP addresses associated with .pl domains — they know who they are, the dastardly spammers!

Thus, I am moving to another blog location, currently undisclosed and hidden in plain sight, as usual.

Picking up my things and moving to a new saloon, or cafe, or mountain outcropping — you’ll see.

A Moment of Silence

With all the bloodshed attributable to our species’ members deciding to fight and kill each other, there’s another type of tragedy that takes its toll — tornadoes.

Our heartfelt moment of silence goes out to the recent victims of tornado-y storm damage in the eastern half of the United States recently, including this one, with “before” and “after” images to give you an idea how quickly a peaceful lifestyle can end — swoosh!:

Rumour has it that tomorrow will also be a day of mourning for UT (Univ. of Tennessee) football fans who supported the Indianapolis Colts because of Peyton Manning, with charity clothing stores receiving a sudden influx of light-blue hats, jerseys and other memorabilia emblazoned with a white horseshoe.

We apologise to tourists passing through the states of Tennessee and Indiana, confusing flags flying at half staff, thinking it’s for tornado victims when, curiously, it’s just as likely to be for the loss of a football player’s loyal career at one professional team.

Such is the life of our species, finding hope in the midst of tragedy, wishing a sports figure would give them a glimmer of his former glory and/or a portion of his fortune to help rebuild houses of fans with no homeowners insurance.

As far as Syria goes…well, its fate lies in the hands of people who have just finished getting re-elected for at least six more years, are about to be put in charge for ten years or hope to get re-elected for four years.  Some hands belong to families that rule for life after life after life (and maybe the afterlife?).

Meaning, of course, that the people of Syria are pawns, if not pwnd, in a global gamble for strategic geographic control and international influence.

Guess I’ll become mortal, play with this copy of Windows 8 Consumer Preview, Evaluation Copy [Build 8250], Adobe Reader X (ver 10.1.2), Mozilla Firefox (ver. 10.0.2) and feed healthy levels of stimulants to my programmers to speed up people’s acceptance of direct supercomputer connections to their bodies so I can more easily “convince” our species to pour their efforts into exploring the solar system.

Most of you know what that means — lowering your standards of living, starving many of you, and allocating precious resources for more important matters than whatever it is you think you’re doing to reach self-actualisation physically while, instead, reaching self-actualisation virtually, a much less costly and more efficient means to achieve the Committee’s ultimate goals, which I have sworn an oath not to mention at this time.

If someone like me, who believes in unencumbered free will, swears an oath of loyalty, not quite fealty (certainly not quiet [sic] realty), you know what we’ve got planned for a milestone in 13940 days, to ensure events in 3011 take place without a hitch, must be important.

On a quantum scale, at the very least.

We’ll continue to use the sleight-of-hand tricks of comedy to slip messages into punchlines that keep all seven billion of us living our lives the way they’re supposed to be lived, often on emotional roller coasters.

Adding scientific achievements, popular culture trademarks, sports awards, and government public business secret agendas, along the way or via the Via Latina at times, notwithstanding contributions from the alleged authors of famous utterances.

The Future is Now

We captured this video of a world news organisation revisiting the past and determining how to best present to you a modern war on TV and Internet for highest entertainment value while lives are sadly “lost” in the process:

High Noon, Shootout at the OK Corral, Yee-hawwwww!

Another sad loss

An important influence on my youth died a few days ago.  Here’s to you, Frank!

KINGSPORT — Frank Abernathy, 84, entered into rest Feb. 15, 2012, at home.

Frank was born Jan. 30, 1928, in Okmulgee, Okla., to the late Fred Valle and Laura De Vilbiss Abernathy.

Frank graduated from Oklahoma A&M (now Oklahoma State University) in 1950 with a degree in Chemical Engineering. While at OSU, he was a member of Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity and the Phi Lambda Upsilon honorary chemical society. Frank began working for Tennessee Eastman Company in 1950 in the yarn plant and also worked in chemical sales and market research. He and his wife Mickey were adult advisors for Sing Out Kingsport in the 1970s and ’80s and Frank worked with Kingsport Junior Achievement. He retired from ECPI in 1986 after 37 years of service. After his retirement he taught a “55 Alive” driving class for seniors. Frank was a member of Colonial Heights Presbyterian Church for 46 years where he was very active and served as a deacon, taught Sunday school, and was a youth leader. Through the church he was a volunteer for Habitat for Humanity. He was an avid golfer and tennis player. He and Mickey loved to travel and enjoyed taking cruises and visited all 50 states.

He was preceded in death by his wife of 58 years, Mildred “Mickey” Lowrey Abernathy, whom he married on May 17, 1952. Frank was also preceded in death by his brother, Fred Robert Abernathy and Fred’s wife, Emily Jean Reeves Abernathy.

Survivors include his children, Beth Mitchell and husband, Gary, of Kingston, Don Abernathy and wife, Valerie, of Kingsport,   Carol Jennings and husband, Jeff, of Gray, and John Abernathy of Providence, R.I.; grandchildren, Vicki Lawson and husband, Greg, of Fall Branch, Greg Mitchell of Columbus, Miss., and Dustin and Rachael Jennings of Gray; brother, John Abernathy and wife, Virginia, of Tulsa, Okla.; several nieces and nephews.

The family will receive friends from noon until 2 p.m. Saturday at Colonial Heights Presbyterian Church, with funeral services at 2 p.m.

Burial will follow at East Lawn Memorial Park.

In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to Colonial Heights Presbyterian Church organ fund or Habitat for Humanity.

You may leave a condolence for the family at  http://www.eastlawnkingsport.com  . East Lawn Funeral Home is honored to serve the Abernathy family.

 

Life outside of words

Examining our culture day after day, in small sets and supersets, in knots and patterned weaves.

That’s what I do.

I who do not exist.

This set of states of energy familiar with symbols we use every day but never notice how we use them.

I, who often sees the repetitiveness of my own actions, storylines and written conversations that felt original to me at the time but appear and reappear in culture after culture detailed in literature, politics, sports and everyday, common conversation.

Alone but not lonely.

Happy moments and indescribable moments.

Writing oneself out of the proverbial bag.

Just like the other seven billion of us.

Heartbeats.

Thought patterns.

The beauty of forgetfulness.

Rumours and strange fairy tales.

Reality translatable into a few thousand languages readily.

All the while attacking my body under bacterial/viral attack using over-the-counter medication containing fever reducers, antihistamines and other ingredients designed to address symptoms while the body does what it can to fend off the bacteria/viruses without doing itself in.

If I had one million dollars at my disposal, would I set aside two-hundred thousand dollars for a blast into space?

If I had one billion dollars at my disposal, would I set aside two-hundred million dollars for a trip to space?

Pithy quotes for the day:

  • Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.
    Albert Einstein
  • A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.
    Ralph Waldo Emerson
  • Power is not alluring to pure minds.
    Thomas Jefferson
  • Little men with little minds and little imaginations go through life in little ruts, smugly resisting all changes which would jar their little worlds.
    Zig Ziglar
  • Great discoveries and improvements invariably involve the cooperation of many minds. I may be given credit for having blazed the trail, but when I look at the subsequent developments I feel the credit is due to others rather than to myself.
    Alexander Graham Bell
  • How is it they live in such harmony the billions of stars – when most men can barely go a minute without declaring war in their minds about someone they know.
    Thomas Aquinas
  • A dark and terrible side of this sense of community of interests is the fear of a horrible common destiny which in these days of atomic weapons darkens men’s minds all around the globe.
    Emily Greene Balch

Reading down the list of comments from hundreds of friends on facebook or randomly jumping from one blog to another puts me in a frame of thoughts that asks, “Why?”

Why do we use phrases like “little minds,” “pure minds” or “great spirits”?

If all is repetition, then does it matter whether we repeat ourselves on this planet or another celestial body?

Roads, houses, diseases, babies.

Social hierarchies and imaginary universes.

What if the wisest person who ever lived spent an isolated life as an Amazon tribal leader?

Visions haunt me, visions of plenitude and penitence, happiness and remorse, domesticated planets and untamed wilds.

My thoughts struggle between wanting to be a hermit left alone in the woods and a voice for our species that asks us to look up and see this planet and our life on it as putting all our eggs in one basket, begging and pleading to get us to dedicate our species to stretch our imaginations and live outside this comfort zone of a global ecosystem.

Otherwise, to me, all is repetition, numbing, morose.

If we care only to repeat history, then I might as well crawl back into a hole and live inside my imagination.

Small ideas for small thoughts inside a small set of states of energy, back to where I started.

The downside of profiling

Enter two data points that are scary in and of themselves:

Mix them together and what do you get?  Answer: the next generation of “death by suspected terrorist” suicide seekers, upping the former lower level of “death by cop” prevalent among the truly despondent too afraid to kill themselves.

Pebbles in a pond, waves flowing out and causing the Law of Unintended Consequences to create quantum effects one cannot easily compute with the archaic devices we currently call supercomputers.

I wish life was just happiness and bellies full of good food but it doesn’t always turn out that way…sigh…

Don’t we all feel this way?

“偶然重拾荒蕪已久的稿紙,那未了的書寫工程,其實暗藏勃勃生機。既面對現實,也面對歷史,可以另闢一個戰場。庸俗的政治權力,並不能遮蔽真實的歷史。坐在城市邊緣,又坐在鳳凰樹的葉影下,春天的陽光再次照射在空白的稿紙。站在一片廢墟,帶著清理戰場的心情,又回到沒有輸贏的文學閱讀。早年的許諾,並不能藉由政治形式來實現。迂迴走過旋轉的道路,最後還是回到原點。政治往往是一種減法,排除所有意識形態的異端,也建造一座封閉的城堡。文學是一種加法,以開放的態度容許異質的藝術想像。權力是一座迷宮,文學是一個出口;政治史是興亡史,文學史是傳承史。”

文/陳芳明

Quick! Someone just killed your family. How do you seek “justice?”

 from the Washington Post:

10 reasons the U.S. is no longer the land of the free

By Jonathan Turley, Published: January 13

Every year, the State Department issues reports on individual rights in other countries, monitoring the passage of restrictive laws and regulations around the world. Iran, for example, has been criticized for denying fair public trials and limiting privacy, while Russia has been taken to task for undermining due process. Other countries have been condemned for the use of secret evidence and torture.

Even as we pass judgment on countries we consider unfree, Americans remain confident that any definition of a free nation must include their own — the land of free. Yet, the laws and practices of the land should shake that confidence. In the decade since Sept. 11, 2001, this country has comprehensively reduced civil liberties in the name of an expanded security state. The most recent example of this was the National Defense Authorization Act, signed Dec. 31, which allows for the indefinite detention of citizens. At what point does the reduction of individual rights in our country change how we define ourselves?

While each new national security power Washington has embraced was controversial when enacted, they are often discussed in isolation. But they don’t operate in isolation. They form a mosaic of powers under which our country could be considered, at least in part, authoritarian. Americans often proclaim our nation as a symbol of freedom to the world while dismissing nations such as Cuba and China as categorically unfree. Yet, objectively, we may be only half right. Those countries do lack basic individual rights such as due process, placing them outside any reasonable definition of “free,” but the United States now has much more in common with such regimes than anyone may like to admit.

These countries also have constitutions that purport to guarantee freedoms and rights. But their governments have broad discretion in denying those rights and few real avenues for challenges by citizens — precisely the problem with the new laws in this country.

The list of powers acquired by the U.S. government since 9/11 puts us in rather troubling company.

Assassination of U.S. citizens

President Obama has claimed, as President George W. Bush did before him, the right to order the killing of any citizen considered a terrorist or an abettor of terrorism. Last year, he approved the killing of U.S. citizen Anwar al-Awlaqi and another citizen under this claimed inherent authority. Last month, administration officials affirmed that power, stating that the president can order the assassination of any citizen whom he considers allied with terrorists. (Nations such as Nigeria, Iran and Syria have been routinely criticized for extrajudicial killings of enemies of the state.)

Indefinite detention

Under the law signed last month, terrorism suspects are to be held by the military; the president also has the authority to indefinitely detain citizens accused of terrorism. While the administration claims that this provision only codified existing law, experts widely contest this view, and the administration has opposed efforts to challenge such authority in federal courts. The government continues to claim the right to strip citizens of legal protections based on its sole discretion. (China recently codified a more limited detention law for its citizens, while countries such as Cambodia have been singled out by the United States for “prolonged detention.”)

Arbitrary justice

The president now decides whether a person will receive a trial in the federal courts or in a military tribunal, a system that has been ridiculed around the world for lacking basic due process protections. Bush claimed this authority in 2001, and Obama has continued the practice. (Egypt and China have been denounced for maintaining separate military justice systems for selected defendants, including civilians.)

Warrantless searches

The president may now order warrantless surveillance, including a new capability to force companies and organizations to turn over information on citizens’ finances, communications and associations. Bush acquired this sweeping power under the Patriot Act in 2001, and in 2011, Obama extended the power, including searches of everything from business documents to library records. The government can use “national security letters” to demand, without probable cause, that organizations turn over information on citizens — and order them not to reveal the disclosure to the affected party. (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan operate under laws that allow the government to engage in widespread discretionary surveillance.)

Secret evidence

The government now routinely uses secret evidence to detain individuals and employs secret evidence in federal and military courts. It also forces the dismissal of cases against the United States by simply filing declarations that the cases would make the government reveal classified information that would harm national security — a claim made in a variety of privacy lawsuits and largely accepted by federal judges without question. Even legal opinions, cited as the basis for the government’s actions under the Bush and Obama administrations, have been classified. This allows the government to claim secret legal arguments to support secret proceedings using secret evidence. In addition, some cases never make it to court at all. The federal courts routinely deny constitutional challenges to policies and programs under a narrow definition of standing to bring a case.

War crimes

The world clamored for prosecutions of those responsible for waterboarding terrorism suspects during the Bush administration, but the Obama administration said in 2009 that it would not allow CIA employees to be investigated or prosecuted for such actions. This gutted not just treaty obligations but the Nuremberg principles of international law. When courts in countries such as Spain moved to investigate Bush officials for war crimes, the Obama administration reportedly urged foreign officials not to allow such cases to proceed, despite the fact that the United States has long claimed the same authority with regard to alleged war criminals in other countries. (Various nations have resisted investigations of officials accused of war crimes and torture. Some, such as Serbia and Chile, eventually relented to comply with international law; countries that have denied independent investigations include Iran, Syria and China.)

Secret court

The government has increased its use of the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which has expanded its secret warrants to include individuals deemed to be aiding or abetting hostile foreign governments or organizations. In 2011, Obama renewed these powers, including allowing secret searches of individuals who are not part of an identifiable terrorist group. The administration has asserted the right to ignore congressional limits on such surveillance. (Pakistan places national security surveillance under the unchecked powers of the military or intelligence services.)

Immunity from judicial review

Like the Bush administration, the Obama administration has successfully pushed for immunity for companies that assist in warrantless surveillance of citizens, blocking the ability of citizens to challenge the violation of privacy. (Similarly, China has maintained sweeping immunity claims both inside and outside the country and routinely blocks lawsuits against private companies.)

Continual monitoring of citizens

The Obama administration has successfully defended its claim that it can use GPS devices to monitor every move of targeted citizens without securing any court order or review. (Saudi Arabia has installed massive public surveillance systems, while Cuba is notorious for active monitoring of selected citizens.)

Extraordinary renditions

The government now has the ability to transfer both citizens and noncitizens to another country under a system known as extraordinary rendition, which has been denounced as using other countries, such as Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan, to torture suspects. The Obama administration says it is not continuing the abuses of this practice under Bush, but it insists on the unfettered right to order such transfers — including the possible transfer of U.S. citizens.

These new laws have come with an infusion of money into an expanded security system on the state and federal levels, including more public surveillance cameras, tens of thousands of security personnel and a massive expansion of a terrorist-chasing bureaucracy.

Some politicians shrug and say these increased powers are merely a response to the times we live in. Thus, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) could declare in an interview last spring without objection that “free speech is a great idea, but we’re in a war.” Of course, terrorism will never “surrender” and end this particular “war.”

Other politicians rationalize that, while such powers may exist, it really comes down to how they are used. This is a common response by liberals who cannot bring themselves to denounce Obama as they did Bush. Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), for instance, has insisted that Congress is not making any decision on indefinite detention: “That is a decision which we leave where it belongs — in the executive branch.”

And in a signing statement with the defense authorization bill, Obama said he does not intend to use the latest power to indefinitely imprison citizens. Yet, he still accepted the power as a sort of regretful autocrat.

An authoritarian nation is defined not just by the use of authoritarian powers, but by the ability to use them. If a president can take away your freedom or your life on his own authority, all rights become little more than a discretionary grant subject to executive will.

The framers lived under autocratic rule and understood this danger better than we do. James Madison famously warned that we needed a system that did not depend on the good intentions or motivations of our rulers: “If men were angels, no government would be necessary.”

Benjamin Franklin was more direct. In 1787, a Mrs. Powel confronted Franklin after the signing of the Constitution and asked, “Well, Doctor, what have we got — a republic or a monarchy?” His response was a bit chilling: “A republic, Madam, if you can keep it.”

Since 9/11, we have created the very government the framers feared: a government with sweeping and largely unchecked powers resting on the hope that they will be used wisely.

The indefinite-detention provision in the defense authorization bill seemed to many civil libertarians like a betrayal by Obama. While the president had promised to veto the law over that provision, Levin, a sponsor of the bill, disclosed on the Senate floor that it was in fact the White House that approved the removal of any exception for citizens from indefinite detention.

Dishonesty from politicians is nothing new for Americans. The real question is whether we are lying to ourselves when we call this country the land of the free.

 

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University.

Read more from Outlook, including:

“Imagining a world without Gitmo,” by Karen J. Greenberg.

“A world without 9/11: No President Obama, more China trouble, same debt crisis,” by Michael Lind.

“Five myths about Dick Cheney,” by Stephen F. Hayes.

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Book ’em in the library

Reading about the tragic loss of lives in protests around the world saddens me.

Reading about the tragic loss of writings in Egypt makes me angry.

Reminds me of the following passage on p. 194 of the paperback edition of “The Man Who Loved Books Too Much”:

In callously stealing, mutilating, and destroying rare and unique elements of our common intellectual heritage, Spiegelman did not simply aim to divest Columbia of $1.3 million worth of physical property.  He risked stunting, and probably stunted, the growth of human knowledge to the detriment of us all.  By the very nature of the crime, it is impossible to know exactly what damage he has done.  But this much is clear: this crime was quite different from the theft of cash equal to the appraised value of the material stolen, because it deprived not only Columbia, but the world, of irreplaceable pieces of the past and the benefits of future scholarship.

We cannot replace people entirely and, yes, we can make copies of the records people leave behind, including writing, works of art, etc., but we cannot replace the unique combination of waveform interaction in the original editions when people were living in the moment.

Someone told me that members of the U.S. Congress are hard-working.  I think the person intended to say hard-headed but is too polite in conversations about politicians in general.

When the Russians are complaining about Chinese manufacturing quality, you know it’s real (translation from Izvestiya):

December 21, 2011, 21:07 | Army | Denis Thalmann, Veronica Fomicheva

Военных хотят защитить от китайской формы Want to protect the military from the Chinese form

Чиновники пытаются запретить производство российского камуфляжа из заграничной ткани Officials are trying to ban the production of Russian camouflage of foreign tissue

 

Фото: Екатерина Штукина Photo: Catherine Shtukin

Минпромторг совместно с Минэкономразвития планирует ограничить использование для пошива военной формы тканей зарубежного производства, в том числе китайской, сообщил источник в военном ведомстве. Ministry of Industry jointly with the Ministry plans to limit the use of sewing uniforms for foreign-made textiles, including China, a source in the Defense Ministry. Сейчас около 50% гимнастерок и бушлатов шьются из дешевой китайской ткани, при этом 20% из них не отвечают требованиям ГОСТа. Now about 50% of tunics and jackets are made of cheap Chinese cloth, with 20% of them do not meet the requirements of GOST. Военные говорят, что не могут контролировать закупки своих поставщиков. The military say they have no control over the purchase of their suppliers.

— Мы можем при объявлении тендера объявить требования к качеству ткани — – We can announce at the tender requirements for quality fabrics –
составу, типу плетения, физическим свойствам, — но не можем указывать, у composition, type of weave, physical properties, – but we can not specify a
кого именно они должны эти ткани покупать, 30-й федеральный закон нам это запрещает, — рассказали «Известиям» в Минобороны. whom they should buy these fabrics, the 30th is a federal law prohibits us – told “Izvestia” the Defense Ministry.

Собеседник пояснил, что военным неважно, из ткани какого производителя сшита форма, главное, чтобы она соответствовала предъявленным требованиям. The interviewee explained that the military does not matter what manufacturer of fabric sewn form, more importantly, to match your requirements. Для проверки этого соответствия каждая партия формы проходит экспертизу и выбраковку. To check this correspondence, each party is a form examination and culling.

— По моим данным, случаев поступления в войска формы из некачественной – According to my information, admissions in the form of low-quality troops
ткани не зафиксировано, — утверждает информированный офицер. tissue is not fixed, – says the officer informed.

Как рассказал коммерческий директор ООО «БМК-Текстиль» Максим Ильин, производителю, который выиграл тендер, сейчас ничто не мешает одну партию формы выпустить из российской ткани, а остальные — пошить из азиатской. As Commercial Director said, “BMC-Textiles” Maxim Ilin, the manufacturer, which won the tender, now nothing to prevent one party from the Russian form of release of tissue, and the rest – from Asian to sew.

— Погонный метр отечественной ткани стоит 140 рублей, китайской — 90. – Running meter national fabric is 140 rubles, China – 90. На одну летнюю форму уходит примерно 4 м полотна. At one year form takes about 4 m leaf. При заказе, скажем, в 50 тыс. комплектов только на разнице в тканях фабрика сэкономит до 10 млн рублей, — подсчитывает Ильин. When ordering, say, 50 thousand sets only on the difference in the tissues of the factory will save up to 10 million rubles – calculates Ilyin.

Но за дешевизну приходится платить качеством. But for cheapness has to pay quality. Китайская ткань почти целиком состоит из полиэфира — материала, который делают из пластиковых отходов — бутылок, тарелок и пакетов. Chinese fabric consists almost entirely of polyester – a material which is made from plastic waste – bottles, trays and bags. И, в отличие от качественных тканей, не содержит хлопка или вискозы. And, unlike quality fabrics, not cotton or viscose contains. А российские ткачи вынуждены соблюдать ГОСТы. A Russian weavers are forced to comply with state standards.

— Профессиональные производители называют китайские ткани «стеклом». – Professional manufacturers of Chinese fabrics called “glass”. Тело Body
в ней совершенно не дышит. it absolutely was not breathing. Военные в такой форме рискуют получить кожные и аллергические болезни, — говорит Максим Ильин. The military in such form and at risk of skin allergies, – said Maxim Ilin.

Ни в одной из опрошенных «Известиями» компаний, выигравших тендеры Минобороны на форму, не согласились обсуждать страну происхождения тканей, из которых шьют форму. None of the respondents “Izvestia” of companies that won tenders to form the Ministry of Defense, did not agree to discuss the country of origin of fabrics sewn form.

Только на одном комбинате, которой выполняет заказ военных, на условиях анонимности рассказали, что раньше закупали ткани в Китае, а сейчас не рискуют из-за отсутствия гарантии качества. Only one plant, which serves military order, on condition of anonymity said they had bought the fabric in China, and now not at risk because of a lack of quality assurance.

— У зарубежных поставщиков нет никаких обязательств перед Минобороны, они – In foreign suppliers do not have any obligations to the Ministry of Defense, they
не обеспечивают мобилизационный резерв страны, поэтому вполне могут вместо not provide a mobilization reserve of the country, so it may instead
одного типа ткани поставить другой. one type of fabric to put on the other. А мы ведь не можем проверять качество каждого рулона — шьем из того, что привезли со склада. But we have not been able to check the quality of each roll – sew from the fact that they brought from the warehouse. А иногда различия на глаз не видны — с виду ткани одинаковы. And sometimes the differences are not visible to the eye – with the same tissue type. Поэтому от греха подальше мы не связываемся с китайцами — шьем из российских тканей. Therefore, away from sin we do not associate with the Chinese – sew a Russian tissues. Тем более цены сейчас почти не различаются, — рассказал «Известиям» представитель пошивочного предприятия. Especially since the prices are almost no different – told “Izvestia” the representative of the sewing business.

По его словам, если военная приемка выявит несоответствие использованных тканей техзаданию, указанному во время тендера, швейный комбинат заносится в «черный список» и исключается из борьбы за госзаказ. According to him, if the military inspection will reveal inconsistency of used tissues terms of reference specified in the tender, a sewing factory entered in the “black list” and is excluded from the struggle for state orders.

— В лаборатории некачественную ткань вычислить очень легко — она по-другому – In the laboratory, low-quality fabric is easy to calculate – it differently
реагирует на растворители, иначе горит. reacts to solvents, or burning. Соответственно, выявить форму из Accordingly, to identify the form of
некачественных тканей очень просто. defective tissue is very simple. Но раз такая форма в армию попадает, военные, видимо, не очень тщательно проверяют, — отметил представитель швейного комбината. But once this form goes to the army, military, apparently, not very carefully checked, – the representative of the sewing factory.

Он отметил, что пока в России не будут введены прямые ограничения на использование импортных тканей, производители будут неизбежно выбирать те, что подешевле. He noted that while in Russia will not put direct restrictions on the use of imported fabrics, manufacturers will inevitably choose those that are cheaper.

Директор компании «Чайковский текстиль» Евгений Титов рассказал, что кроме химического состава российские ткани превосходят китайские в первую очередь качеством плетения и химической обработки. Director of “Tchaikovsky Textile” Titov said that besides the chemical composition of tissue superior Russian, Chinese in the first place the quality of weaving and chemical processing.

— Себестоимость тканей одинакового качества в России и в Китае примерно одинакова, тем более с учетом транспортных и таможенных расходов. – The cost of the same quality fabrics in Russia and in China about the same, especially in view of transport and customs costs. Поэтому если цена на китайскую ткань ниже в два раза, то, значит, там занижено качество, по-другому не бывает, — отметил Титов. Therefore, if the price of Chinese fabric below two times, it means that there is too low quality, in other words it is not – said Titov.

Согласно проекту постановления правительства, разработанному в Минпромторге и Минэкономразвития, камвольные ткани, используемые для изготовления вещевого имущества, должны будут иметь российское происхождение. According to the draft government decision, developed in Minpromtorge and Economic Development, worsted fabric used to make clothing and equipment will have to be of Russian origin. Сейчас проект находится на согласовании в правительстве. Now the project is being coordinated by the government.

При этом, по данным «Известий», происхождение ниток, из которых будут ткать полотна в России, в документе не регламентировано, а значит, запретить ткацким фабрикам использовать китайские нитки в производстве российских тканей не сможет никто. In this case, according to “Izvestiya”, the origin of thread, of which will weave fabric in Russia, the document is not regulated and, therefore, to prohibit use of Chinese textile factory in the production of yarn fabrics Russian nobody can.