Stirring the muddy waters

Here’s an interesting opinion/comment about gun-related violence in the United States, from this article:

Titanium Dragon wrote:
firelogic wrote:
You know what the difference is between Canada and the USA? GUN CONTROL.

Graph % gun ownership vs per capita homicides and, if you don’t include Washington DC (just the 50 states) you’ll find the R-squared is 0.002 – which is to say, there is no correlation (the line has a slight negative slope, but with that R-squared value it is obviously useless).

Graph % African Americans vs per capita homicides and, if you don’t include Washington DC (just the 50 states) you’ll find the R-squared is 0.50 (and the trendline is positive; more African Americans = more homicides). This is to be expected as African Americans commit roughly 50% of the homicides in the US, indicating that we aren’t just seeing some weird thing in the data – the trendlines correlate with national data on homicides.

I excluded DC because it is a major outlier and skews both graphs considerably.

Or to put it simply: gun ownership does not correlate with homicide rate.

I don’t see many people advocating African American control.

^This. Looking at ACTUAL DATA nationally and by city/state reveals that blacks commit the most gun violence in the US by a huge margin. The FBI tracks these stats nationally, and many cities track them as well. As an example, let’s look at Chicago:

https://portal.chicagopolice.org/portal … s/MA11.pdf
page 53 reveals

Murder offenders:
70.5% Black
24.3% Hispanic
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94.8% of all murders in chicago were committed by blacks and hispanics.

For reference, Chicago is 32.9% Black, and 28.9% Hispanic (2010 census, Wikipedia)

Ideology is blinding people to these facts. If you want to stop the problem, you’ve got to admit what’s wrong folks. White people might have the occasional spree killer, but by and large, we aren’t the problem, and neither are asians.
Last edited by Q1DM6 on Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:22 pm

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